Sunday, January 25, 2026 • 4:30 PM EST
Presenter: Larry Sue
This session is open to anyone who would like to ask/discuss questions, or just listen in. It will allow for attendees to submit questions ahead of time (link to come) or ask questions during the session.
About Larry
Larry Sue is a published handbell composer/arranger, and is the author of The Bass Ringer’s Notebook. His handbell conducting experience includes California Spring Rings, the Rogue Valley Handbell Festival, the Redding Handbell Festival, and advanced events such as the River City Radical Ring and Redding Bronze. Larry has been a church musician for most of his life, serving on piano, guitar, clarinet, voice, and electric bass. Conducting and composing in the choral and instrumental ministries have been part of his efforts as well. Larry has also had sidelines in music teaching and piano tuning, and has been running his music publishing company, Choraegus, since 1995.
00:17:16 Musician: Your hard work is very much appreciated – thank you!!
00:21:59 Daryl Stephens: I don’t think it can be considered an official Zoom meeting unless someone’s cat, dog, or child shows up on cam.
00:22:10 Linda Onorevole (she/her): Reacted to “I don’t think it can…” with 😃
00:24:23 kenlamb1944: I’m a newbie and overwhelmed. I need someone to hold my hand and say, “now open the program, now click here, now….”
00:24:34 Daryl Stephens: Reacted to “I’m a newbie and ove…” with 👍
00:24:34 Pat Hawkins: I’m a beginner and missed yesterday’s sessions so I’ll have to go watch them when they’re available!
00:24:37 Janelle Bolt: you mentioned a cheat sheet, where or how do I get that
00:25:24 Linda Onorevole (she/her): Here is where to get the Dorico resources that Larry created: https://www.choraegus.com/dorico/
00:25:37 Larry: The Dorico reference card is at https://blog.dorico.com/2019/06/quick-reference-
cards/
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00:26:11 Musician: Ditto, Terry! Sorry, I don’t have a mic or camera – my name is Matt, and I’m in Arizona. I am a Sibelius user but haven’t upgraded since 7.5. This has been great getting into Dorico through these sessions – thank you for the sessions, your template, sharing your experiences…
00:26:17 Linda Onorevole (she/her): https://forums.steinberg.net/t/jason-loffredo-conquering-videos-from-finale-to-dorico/1008025
00:27:21 Daryl Stephens: I used to direct our church children’s and youth bell choirs and occasionally wrote things for them, but they fizzled out, and if they start over, that will be the job of our new full-time music director, so I haven’t had a big incentive to learn Dorico even though I bought it when it came out. It’ll just be for fun for me, I guess.
00:27:44 Paul McGahie: how does Sibelius compare to Finale & Dorico?
00:28:02 Janelle Bolt: thank you
00:28:54 Musician: I’m finding Dorico easier and much more intuitive. Daniel Spreadbury and crew from Sibelius became the creative force for Dorico.
00:29:31 Daryl Stephens: I guess it would be like switching from WordPerfect to Word, or maybe more like learning LaTeX after only knowing Word and WP.
00:31:19 Musician: I switched from Finale to Sibelius in the early 2000’s – I found it much easier and faster to arrange and deal with orchestra parts and scores in Sibelius. Dorico follows suit – at least as I’m learning it now!
00:33:07 Musician: That would be awesome!
00:43:03 Janelle Bolt: how do you separate the bell used chart?
00:44:34 kenlamb1944: What’s the Hub? How do I get there?
00:48:28 Paul McGahie: OK, how to add blank measures?
00:49:26 kenlamb1944: How do you add the bass clef?
00:50:01 Daryl Stephens: Really basic question — Do you open with your template, start composing, and then save the composition with a new name?
00:51:12 Cathy Marker (CAGO, ASCAP): When converting your scores from Finale to Dorico did you take time to tweak them, or simply export to xml, open in Dorico and deal with the fine tuning later? That process seems daunting, especially if you have a large output. Maybe talk a bit about your experience with batch converting?
00:53:47 Daryl Stephens: Another basic one: When you were selecting several notes, is that like selecting multiple other things, so you would hold down the control (command) key and click on those notes?
00:55:28 Linda Onorevole (she/her): sorry for coughing un-muted!
01:00:17 kenlamb1944: In Finale, transpose and retain notes
01:10:03 Musician: Sibelius will batch convert XML – you’ll find it under plug ins/Batch processing/Convert Folder of Scores to Music XML.
01:11:02 kenlamb1944: How do I get layers in Dorico?
01:16:50 Sharon Schmidt: There’s an option to color the voices
01:23:24 Cathy Marker (CAGO, ASCAP): I have used red noteheads for chimes with Dorico. Don’t remember how I did it now.😂
01:23:54 Terry McCartin: Can you comment on general formating? Finale has fit measures, moves systems, move measure numbers, etc.
01:23:55 Cathy Marker (CAGO, ASCAP): Ah, voices vs. noteheads!
01:29:01 Terry McCartin: Adding blank pages before/after music itself?
01:32:42 Cathy Marker (CAGO, ASCAP): Yes, 11 x 17 booklet format.
01:33:03 Cathy Marker (CAGO, ASCAP): I don’t remember
01:36:13 Cathy Marker (CAGO, ASCAP): Had to open Dorico. Booklet is under Print/job type.
01:37:06 Cathy Marker (CAGO, ASCAP): This is on a Konica Minolta BizHub, so it may be printer dependent.
01:38:20 Musician: It’s 62 in Arizona – sorry!
01:39:07 Musician: 🥶
01:39:53 Musician: Larry – this has been fantastic! I greatly appreciate sharing your knowledge and templates! Thank you!
01:39:55 Daryl Stephens: We in northeast TN got a dusting of snow yesterday, but then it started raining, and it’s 48° now (but it’ll get down to 17° tonight, so we’ll probably get a sheet of ice on everything.
01:39:57 Cathy Marker (CAGO, ASCAP): Thank you Larry!
01:40:10 Terry McCartin: Thank you all
Jason Krug – Jason W. Krug is a native of Indianapolis, IN. He holds a degree in music from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Jason is a full-time freelance composer, arranger, clinician, and teacher. Since his first publication in 2006, he’s had over 400 compositions and arrangements accepted for handbells, piano, strings, organ, and choir. His works have been featured at numerous festivals and workshops in the United States and beyond. In his spare time, Jason enjoys writing. He has spent several years working on a young adult fantasy series, The Sadonian Chronicles, and recently released his first non-fiction book, The General Theory of Creativity. He frequently participates in the National Novel Writing Month event in November. Jason continues to live in Indianapolis with his wife, Ellen, and his sons, Daniel and Malcolm. You can find him on the web at jasonwkrug.com. 
Leslie Lewis – Leslie Lewis has been ringing handbells since 1979 when she was introduced to them at the Montreat Worship and Music Conference. Leslie has been ringing in the bass section for Distinctly Bronze East since the event began in 1999 and added Distinctly Bronze West in 2019; she also participated in the Distinctly Bronze European Tour in 2007. She has rung low bass in many area and national All Star Choirs, and at Virtuoso 2017 and 2019, sharing the stage with the Raleigh Ringers for the final concert. Leslie rings with Queen City Ringers based in Charlotte, NC, where she also serves as treasurer, and is treasurer for Area 3 of the Handbell Musicians of America. She enjoys substituting for choirs in the Gastonia and Charlotte areas and dabbles in solo ringing. Having added the lower 6th and 7th octave chimes to her growing set of handbell “toys” she hopes to offer her services to add the lower chimes for groups that don’t have them available once ringing returns to “normal” in the area. After graduating from North Carolina State University with a degree in computer science, Leslie worked for IBM and First Union National Bank for a combined 15 years before turning a part-time role preparing income taxes into a career. Leslie is president of Unified Income Taxes and Accounting, Inc., in Gastonia, NC, where she prepares all types of tax returns and, as an enrolled agent, represents clients during IRS tax audits and appeals. Leslie served as director of commission accounting for a Charlotte-based brokerage firm with branches in seventeen states from 2009 to 2015, when she left to pursue the role of chief accounting officer for a commercial aircraft maintenance, repair, and overhaul station located in Medley, FL. Other than bells, Leslie enjoys playing golf and walking on the beach as a precursor to life after retirement.
Bruna Marinho – Bruna Marinho is an energetic handbell ringer, pianist, and music teacher based in SãoPaulo, Brazil. She is the founder of Handbells Brasil, an organization that promotes the art of handbells in Brazil through performance and education. Bruna graduated in 2014 with a degree in music education from Catholic University of Santos. Bruna first encountered handbells in 2016 as a part of a music exchange led by Dr. Moorman-Stahlman from Lebanon Valley College in Annville, PA. Inspired by this experience, she organized a free handbell workshop in Brazil that was attended by about 40 students. Since 2017, Handbells Brasil has played in community venues and churches and has developed music education programs in elementary schools. In 2018, Handbells Brasil received a donation of three octaves of Whitechapel handbells from a church in Pennsylvania and the organization has purchased two octaves of Malmark handchimes. Bruna is the Malmark representative for Brazil. To promote the art of handbells in Brazil, Bruna spent about six months as a music ministry intern at St. Andrew Presbyterian Church, in Iowa City, IA, and attended the HMA National Seminar in Grand Rapids, MI. She recently created a series of comedy handbell videos on YouTube as a way to engage people and spread the joy of handbells. 
Stevie Berryman – Stevie Berryman is astonishingly good at the game Boggle. She can fold a fitted sheet so it looks like it came right out of the package. Likewise, her skills as music director and teacher have also been acquired through long hours of arduous and dedicated practice. For much of her career Stevie has directed seven or more ensembles each week, meaning she has 98 years of experience (in dog years). Her effusive energy and wild creativity found a perfect setting in 2013 when she became the Artistic Director of the Houston Chamber Ringers, which has let her smash together her love for music, laughter, and tacos in a truly remarkable way. She has a particular passion for teaching children how to ring, and her innovative methods have made her a sought-after educator at area and national handbell festivals. Stevie loves helping other choirs as a private clinician, or planning epic concerts for them as a creative consultant. Her next step in global domination is to take over the card game world with the company she owns and founded with her husband, Paul, Truly Horrible Things. In real life she is the handbell director at First Congregational Church in Houston, TX.
Lisa Arnold – Lisa Arnold started ringing in 1976 with the Wesley Bell Ringers of Salt Lake City, UT, and toured for four summers, performing in 49 states and nine Canadian provinces. The first community handbell ensemble Lisa rang with was Bay Bells in San Jose, CA, and has been a member of the Merrimack Valley Ringers since 2010 when she moved back to New England. Lisa has regularly taught workshops at Area 1 Spring Rings and festivals in topics such as exercises for ringers, bass bell technique, weaving, solo ringing, and handbell notation. Lisa and her husband, Chuck, use handbells as an excuse to travel and ring all over the world. She spends her free time learning Italian and riding bicycles. Lisa serves as Past-Chair of Area 1 of Handbell Musicians of America.
Mark Arnold – Mark Arnold has been an active church musician for most of his life, currently serving as Director of Handbell Ministries at the First Baptist Church of Keller, TX. He is a graduate of the University of Kansas, with bachelor’s degrees in music education and music theory and advanced study in computer science. Mark’s professional experience includes many years of directing handbells, teaching school orchestras, leading adult and children’s choirs, playing horn in community ensembles, and an occasional gig playing bass in jazz or rock groups. In addition to leading workshops and clinics, he has published arrangements for both brass and handbell ensembles. In his “spare” time, he manages software development projects for a major North American transportation provider. Mark and his wife, Robin, have three grown children and reside in Fort Worth, TX.
Ed Rollins – Ed Rollins is the Artistic Director and Conductor of the Columbia Handbell Ensemble, a position he has held since 2006. The ensemble has performed on four occasions for HMA national events and numerous regional and area events. For the last 20 months, Ed served as Interim Executive Director of HMA. He has been active in this organization for many years, serving as Missouri State treasurer, Missouri State chair, Area 8 chair on two occasions, area representative to the national board, and President of the board of directors. For 31 years, Ed was associate pastor for music and administration at First Baptist Church of Columbia. During his tenure at the church, he promoted many ecumenical concerts (including the 9/11 Memorial Concert and the 10th Anniversary Memorial Concert), created an extensive program of liturgical art, and co-founded the highly successful Odyssey Chamber Music Series. Ed is married to Jess Wolfe, a teacher with Columbia Public Schools. He has four terrific step-kids, and in March he and Jess welcomed Iris Mae Wolfe Rollins into the family.
Karen Van Wert – With an insatiable thirst for knowledge and a passion to share what she has learned, Karen Van Wert is at home in a classroom or at the podium. She will tell you, “There is nothing more rewarding than witnessing a ringer grasping a concept and executing it in their music. Building skills and instilling confidence in a ringer is the goal of every rehearsal, for then we can make music.” Karen and her bellboy, James, make their home in Savage, MN.
Barb Walsh – Barb Walsh has been the Northern Nevada/Eastern Sierra Regional Coordinator for Area 12 of Handbell Musicians of America since 1993, and was a public school music teacher in the Reno/Sparks, NV, area for 33 years. She received Educator of the Year Award from the Nevada Music Educators Association in 2014. She has developed handbell programs ranging from elementary school children to the adult community group, Tintabulations, known for their high energy, innovation, and musicianship. When not teaching, directing, or ringing, Barb plays flute and piccolo in local orchestras and shares backcountry adventures with her husband, dog, and horses. 
Linda Krantz – Linda Krantz is an accomplished and widely recognized solo handbell artist, has an active performing career, and regularly teaches at the local, regional, and national level. Linda’s greatest love is to perform solo concerts, where she most enjoys playing classical music. She has performed as far away as Paris, and most recently with David Lockington, cellist and maestro of the Pasadena Symphony. Linda was a student of Nancy Hascall, learning all she could about traveling four-in-hand (4iH) and the nuances of artistic solo ringing. Linda is a founding member and president of L.A. Bronze, a past president and current advisory board member of the Pasadena Symphony, and a founding artist and past board member of Timbré. She has served as secretary of the Area 12 board of Handbell Musicians of America, and currently serves on the National Development Committee for Handbell Musicians of America.